Wednesday, May 19, 2010

 

Are Q1b Goldfoots from Khazaria? Most Likely Not

Goldfoot belongs to a haplogroup of Q1b, found to be from the Altai Mts in Siberia, Mongolia and parts of Turkey. Those Q1b's who are Jewish make up only 5% of the total Jewish population of today. Some Q1b's are not Jewish. It is theorized that we might be from the royalty of Khazaria. The ruler had converted to Judaism at the heighth of their power in the 700's AD. He did not force the population to convert. Others say that this is impossible to be from Khazaria. Now the theory of Q1b being from Khazaria is quite dead. It is even thought that some R1's could be the Khazarians.

Khazaria was on the Silk Road and involved with trading. Kagan "King" Bulan had three speakers come to him; a Christian, Muslim, and Jew. He had decided on becoming Jewish. He and his royal court converted.

I'd like to know who we would have sprouted from if it isn't Khazaria. We had a common male ancestor from 1,000 years ago from these mountains. Since we descendants have a high percentage of a Jewish heritage, I deduce that this 1,000 yr old ancestor was also Jewish. He must have lived in a Jewish community at that time as the descendants found tend to be Jewish, too. The geographical origins do not hold Jewish strongholds except Khazaria that I know of. Jews are not people known to proselyze so we've never sent people out in the hinterlands to do so. We have moved around a lot for purposes of trade. Cohen haplogroups have been found in a tribe in Africa. One tribe there has even claimed ownership to Moses's ark. The Queen of Sheba and her entourage went back to their home in Africa pregnant after visiting King Solomon. We have their descendants now living in Israel.


Dan Kurzman back in 1948 wrote about Khazarians in an ibid in his book "Genesis 1948."
The Arabs roaming about in Palestine before the advent of Israel's birth on May 14, 1948 commented that all Jews were descendants from the Khazar tribes of southern Russia who had embraced Judaism. They didn't know that dna testing would prove otherwise. Now we know of the haplogroup that shows Cohens-direct descendants from Moses and Aaron, and other Jews from the Middle East.

In his reference, Kurzman had this comment. In the year A.D. 740, a Tartaric warrior people living in the kingdom of Khazar on the western shore of the Caspian Sea, speaking Greek and practicing a blend of Christianity and paganism, were converted to Judaism under their king, Bulan. However, in 969, and army from Kiev defeated the Khazars, incorporated their territory into a new Russian state, and reconverted them to Christianity. In 1500, another incredible episode took place in Russia when two Greek Orthodox priests in Lithuania converted to Judaism, proselytized in the hinterland, and won thousands of other converts, including the daughter-in-law of the Duke of Moscow. The frightened Orthodox Church stamped out the rush to Judaism by drowning 300 Jews as a form of "baptism," and trying-unsuccessfully-to banish the rest from Russian territory.

I just heard about something similar to this at our genealogy meeting from Hal Bookbinder of UCLA. After Russia was upset because some Russian citizens were captivated by Judaism, they decided to oust Jews from "Old Russia" by confining us to the Pale of Russia.

We're lucky in being able to pinpoint our geographical origins and years from a common ancestor. Now we just need a map dating 1,000 years back showing the area and its religious groups.

Resource: added 6/6/10 http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/06/tracing-the-roots-of-jewishness.html?etoc

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Ashkenazi Jews are not from Khazaria converts. Be sure to read: http://mosaicmagazine.com/picks/2014/03/jews-without-swords/?utm_source=Mosaic+Daily+Email&utm_campaign=a36df0822d-2014_3_19&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0b0517b2ab-a36df0822d-41144429
 
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